Tuesday, April 27, 2010

Ukrainian "democrats" fail at distrupting Black Sea Fleet deal ratification



Posted by VINEYARDSAKER: at 08:24
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3 comments:

Carlo said...

This was predictable. Yesterday a congressman from Yulia Timoshenko's bloc said that they would use "all means" to prevent the ratification. Anyway, they failed, it was ratified with 11 more votes than the minimun required.
http://en.rian.ru/exsoviet/20100427/158771622.html
This article also says that 7,000 people gathered in Kiev to protest. Probably they are mainly from Western Ukraine. I guess there is still NED and Soros Foundation money flowing to support "democracy" in Ukraine.

27 April, 2010 12:38
Carlo said...

This caught me completely by surprise:
http://en.rian.ru/exsoviet/20100427/158772431.html
From this article:
"We consider it incorrect and unjust to consider the Holodomor a fact of genocide of a certain people," Yanukovych said, calling it "a common tragedy" of the Soviet people.
The Ukrainian president said not only Ukrainian, but also Russian, Belarusian and Kazakh people starved during the famine.
"Those were consequences of Stalin's totalitarian regime, his attitude to people," he said.

Ukraine won't be Israel, and Holodomor won't be the Shoa. That is really good for both Ukraine and Russia, and also for historical truth.

27 April, 2010 13:14
VINEYARDSAKER: said...

@Carlo: That is really good for both Ukraine and Russia, and also for historical truth

Absolutely. And not only did non-Ukrainians die during the so-called "Holodomor", but the exact same thing was happening in many parts of the USSR. The peoples of the USSR all suffered from the same terror and genocide and pitting one group against the other is morally wrong and historically incorrect.

Even Jews suffered under the Soviet terror. While it is true that most Bolsheviks were Jews, most Jews were *not* Bolsheviks and that is something which the various Jew-haters in the former USSR always forget.

I have more and more issues with the current government in Russia which, alas, is becoming more and more authoritarian in its methods, but I find the idea of opening the May Parade to other nations to celebrate the victory against Nazism a very good one. Likewise, all the nations of the former USSR should jointly mourn their dead and jointly celebrate the end of Bolshevik rule.

As Solzhenitsyn wrote: there were no nationalities in the Gulag. There should be none today.

27 April, 2010 13:53

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