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Friday, February 28, 2014

Statement by the Russian Ministry of Foreign Affairs regarding the events in Ukraine

The agreement on the settlement of the Ukrainian crisis, which was signed on the 21 February and certified by the German, Polish and French Foreign Ministers, is still not being fulfilled. Militants have still not laid down arms, they have not freed administrative buildings, or announced their intention to “make order” in all the Ukrainian regions. There are threats of physical reprisals, as the President Viktor Yanukovych emphasised in his statement today.

The agreement to jointly investigate acts of violence and the obligation to create a national unity government, have been forgotten
. Instead, as Maidan puts it, a “government of champions”, which includes representatives of national extremists, is being created.

The agreements about constitutional reform, which should precede presidential elections according to the Agreement of the 21 February, have been forgotten. We are convinced that only a constitutional framework, ensuring the interests of all responsible political forces and all regions of Ukraine, corresponds to the interests of national peace and stability in the long term.

We appeal to those western partners, who initially supported the opposition and who supported the Agreement of the 21 February, to become fully aware of their responsibility for its implementation. The statements that this document has already played its role are not serious. All the taskslisted and agreed on the 21 February, have not lost their meaning, in fact they have become even more topical to prevent further polarisation of the community as a result of radical actions.

We must stop interference in church affairs, the besmearing of Orthodox temples, memorials in honour of the heroes of the Great Patriotic War, who freed Ukraine from fascism, and other monuments.

We are seriously concerned about the cancellation of the Law on the Foundations of the State Language Policy in violation of Ukraine’s international obligations, which leads to further deprivation of the rights of minorities, restriction of the freedom of mass media, bans on the activities of individual political parties.

We currently note frequent appeals to Russia,by western countries, for cooperation about issues related to the situation in Ukraine. We proposed this long ago, long before this crisis ever entered its hot phase, however, at the time our colleagues were not disposed towards this.

Nevertheless, we are ready to interact, understanding clearly that it must be done honestly, based on the ability not only to agree, but also to fulfil the agreements, which should take into account the interests of all the Ukrainian people, as well as all partners of Ukraine. The implementation of obligations under the Agreement of the 21 February would become an important step along this path.
The attempts to replay agreed actions unilaterally every time, the lack of any wish to perceive the real situation as it is, never leads to anygood. When NATO starts reviewing the situation in Ukraine, it sends the wrong signal. It even seemed appropriate for the NATO Secretary General to mention that “Ukraine’s membership of NATO is not an urgent priority of the Ukrainian leadership”. Does this mean that membership should be a priority, but not an urgent one? They are attempting to decide for the Ukrainian people again.

We insistently recommend that everybody should refuse provocative statements and respect the out-of-bloc status of Ukraine, which is formalised in its Law on the Foundations of Domestic and Foreign Policy.

27 February 2014

37 comments:

Tristero said...

This entry, from a blog that normally deals with economics and investing, has a contribution by someone who's been following matters in the Ukraine via both Russian and Ukrainian language media:

http://globaleconomicanalysis.blogspot.com/2014/02/inside-ukraine-mish-reader-who-speaks.html

Anonymous said...

i doubt that anyone of any current political responsibillity in the western hemispere be that the US or EU will likly want to understand this because it comes again from Russia and is just like another reminder from the wrong corner of the world. Another interesting information is, that the russian foreign ministry as issued a statement on their facebook page that the Ukranian Berkutforces will be issued russian passports at the russian Sevastopol consulate... i regard this a most interesting move.

Sokenekos said...

Pointless, impotent, futile, idiotic... reminds me of the last ruler in Constantinopol who regarded himself "the ruler of Rome" while the Turks were surrounding the city itself (because nothing else was left of the empire) and then took it.

For not prepairing early on for this, i.e., helping the local pro-Russian regions to self-organize -- like we Serbs did in Bosnia & Croatia made with the SAOs (Serbian Autonomous Oblasts / Regions) before the war against us was started in the same manner -- a big toll will be paid by Russia. If they were completely ignoring this as a possibility, and they shouldn't have by all means, then I don't know what to say!? Always let millions of their people to be slaughtered before they react -- making the solution far more expensive then it's supposed to be.

Idiots! Stop with empty talk, do work!

Anonymous said...

Sokenokos:

I'm fairly new at this but I don't think Putin has let millions of his people die before taking action. And it seems kind of likely that they're onto our code (or however you say it -- again, I'm not military-minded). So perhaps these "military exercises" are just a cover for a whole lot of stuff, very well-planned stuff, part of which we are just beginning to observe, and part of which we may never know. The progression of the Russian responses seems pretty well-attuned to the situation, American propaganda notwithstanding.

Vitaliy Dovgiy said...

Saker, your articles isn't revelations but the mirrow of reality. At least what concerns former USSR, Russia, etc. From time I've encountered your page in Runet I'm yor fan. Especially when it came for the battle of Crimea and Sevastopol itself. I know media is certain power everywhere, so in Ukraine is the same. FYI and for some insights (provided you know Russian) about developments in Crimea Sevasopol forum is your up-to-hour source of info - http://forum.sevastopol.info/viewforum.php?f=11

Vitaliy Dovgiy said...

Saker, your articles isn't revelations but the mirrow of reality. At least what concerns former USSR, Russia, etc. From time I've encountered your page in Runet I'm yor fan. Especially when it came for the battle of Crimea and Sevastopol itself. I know media is certain power everywhere, so in Ukraine is the same. FYI and for some insights (provided you know Russian) about developments in Crimea Sevasopol forum is your up-to-hour source of info - http://forum.sevastopol.info/viewforum.php?f=11

VINEYARDSAKER: said...

@Sokenokos:Idiots! Stop with empty talk, do work!

With all due respect, I think you are missing the point. This kind statement is used for LEGAL purposes, in this case to put the blame for the collapse of the agreement on the West and the nationalists. This does not replace direct action, but it SUPPORTS it. And it's not like they only talked and did nothing - the situation in Crimea has literally completely changed overnight.

I think that you mistake careful and deliberate action with lack of action and a gradual strategy with passivity. Frankly, I think that so far the response of the Kremlin is nothing short of brilliant and it creates headaches for the insurgents literally on all levels.

Aren't you being unfair to the Kremlin? These guys are, I submit, anything BUT idiots - and they have proven that over and over again.

When is the last time you saw Putin fail?

Cheers,

The Saker

Vitaliy Dovgiy said...

Saker, your articles isn't revelations but the mirrow of reality. At least what concerns former USSR, Russia, etc. Since that time I've encountered your page in Runet I'm yor fan. Especially when it came for the battle of Crimea and Sevastopol itself. I know media is certain power everywhere, so in Ukraine it is the same. FYI and for some insights (provided you know Russian) about developments in Crimea, Sevastopol forum is your up-to-hour source of info - http://forum.sevastopol.info/viewforum.php?f=11

VINEYARDSAKER: said...

@Vitaliy: thanks a lot for your kind words and for the link to the forum. I will try to find the time to join some conversations there. If I do, I will post as Балобан (for non-Russian speakers: that is "Saker" in Russian).

And yes, I speak Russian ;-)

Many thanks and kind regards,

The Saker

patrick crane said...

IMHO, the opposition (being polite) took advantage of Russia hosting the Sochi 2014 Winter Olympics. Russian Gov't are & have to be MASTER CHESS PLAYERS when it comes to geo-politics with the ZOG NWO. Even with them having a "bully" mentality, it's their INSANITY & the stakes involved which have to be taken into consideration. Russia just showed how they feel about certain parts of Ukraine (well documented by The Saker) & the broken agreement now that the Sochi card is null.

Interesting info about the Turkey plane. Waiting to see how that plays out.

The Resistance has exposed the "beast" and only the willfully ignorant still see "clothing".
CHECK

Tor Quinn-Darke said...

Pepe Escobar writes: "As Immanuel Wallerstein has already observed, [2] Nuland, Kagan and the neo-con gang are as much terrified of Russia "dominating" Ukraine as of a slowly emerging, and eventually quite possible, geopolitical alliance between Germany (with France as a junior partner) and Russia."

I think Escobar does not fully appreciate the latter possibility, although the facts favouring it have been in the open since the US subprime collapse and subsequent events. The Europeans have been realizing, sometimes painfully, what both dollar hegemony and US internet technological dominance mean for them at the sharp end when the pedal hits the metal. They will need to decide which way to face, and I think they will decide to face the dawn. The moment may be far closer than most people realize.

Vitaliy Dovgiy said...

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ppoR7vCBALo&feature=c4-overview&list=UU9R8Y0UoBPslV60KLcTwoSg

NO COMMENTS.

Anonymous said...

@Saker

> When is the last time you saw Putin fail?

I agree with you 100% about Putin's team's skills and its professionalism in general, and in most actions in the past, especially Georgia.

About Syria's chemical weapons solution however, I'm wondering if that was such a good thing after all. Everyone (including yourself I believe) says what a great victory for Putin, but as you know, Iraq had been de-weaponized and starved , potentially always having in mind a future invasion, which has been hugely supported by that preparatory work. Obviously, Bush would have thought twice had he really believed Saddam could rain WMDs on US troops or deliver them to Israel.

At the time, neither US congress was "willing", nor was a coalition, except for that latest guy to represent Israel in France, what's his name again? Right, Hollande. Not even willing executioner Blair's heirs were ready. So those who say that Barry and John Kohn were happy to find a straw to clutch at are right, I think.

And now, in hindsight, we can see, that the US is itching to crank up the volume in Syria again. I only hope progress with CW removal is slow enough to allow Assad to keep some deterrence.

To cut a long story short: This could amount to a mistake on Putin's part. Otoh, you never know, and maybe without that straw, Obama would have had to fulfill on his promise to mete out punishment to Assad, who supposedly did, what America and Israel have no worries doing: Using chemical weapons on humans. And worse.

Honk

Anonymous said...

@Tor Quinn-Darke

> The Europeans have been realizing, sometimes painfully, what both dollar hegemony and US internet technological dominance mean for them at the sharp end when the pedal hits the metal.

Who are you talking about when you say "Europeans"? The people, or their masters? Some of the former have for sure, for the latter, especially the bigger ones like Germany, France, Britain, Italy, I haven't seen any evidence that they give a shit. Just look at the current Ukraine issue again. Germany is probably the worst of the European meddlers in Ukraine, through Angy/Vlad, Steinmeier, the Konrad-Adenauer-Stiftung. That all is directed 100% against Russia, and probably more than 50% against themselves. All the while Black-Barry is sitting in his White House and smiling...

Honk

Anonymous said...

Moscow is against externally imposed mediation in Ukraine's Crimea – Russia's UN envoy

http://voiceofrussia.com/news/2014_03_01/Moscow-is-against-externally-imposed-mediation-in-Ukraines-Crimea-Russias-UN-envoy-2669/

Not just Moscow, one of the west's quislings recently got "pleasant" welcome in Crimea:

Последние сообщения из Крыма (Recent Posts from Crimea)

http://anna-news.info/node/13766

"Crimea Front" also made it clear they are not interested in any "autonomy" fig leaves, they want independence.

вот так

Anonymous said...

Last news coming from Ukraine is, that the mysterious soldiers in Sevastopol are from Ukraine and they represents NOT the new false goverment, but represent the real Ukraine which is on alert before their country will be stolen.
Media around the world are stressing that these were Russian soldiers and it looks like that this is nothiong just an confirmation about their lies and nothing else, because independent media is reporting something else.
Manipulations in a high gear!!!

Anonymous said...

Just can't stand the thought that the Ukrainians too have desires, that they have received nothing but grief from the Russians / Bolsheviks. Just can't stand the thought that the language of Ukraine should be Ukranians and not Russian. Putin has had a fund for the "near abroad" for years, which fund finances the return of Russians to their homeland. Why do so few take up the offer? The Russians have lived in Ukraine for a generation, yet they haven't bothered to learn the language. This is just a metaphor for the Russian attitude towards a free Ukraine in general.

It's time for the civilized world to isolate Russia -- no more memberships in any international organizations.

I hope Ukraine does default on their debts -- it's Russia and Putin's oligarchs that will be left holding the bag.

Penny said...

Hey Saker

So interesting about the Turkish plane bound for Crimea, making a hasty retreat
I wonder if it was loaded with a special delivery destabilizing/terrorizing force
One that Russia might just have got a wind of?

http://www.ft.com/cms/s/0/05a4d5ec-a072-11e3-a72c-00144feab7de.html

Reported on approximately 10 hours ago EST- but when exactly did the ISIS fighters leave and where did they go?

It remained unclear why Isis left Azaz, which it has controlled for months.

Perhaps they were simply reassigned?



The group’s control of the hotly contested town, five kilometres south of the Bab al-Salam border crossing to the Turkish provinces of Gaziantep and Kilis.

Just a stones throw from Turkey
Convenient

Anonymous said...

Russia interested in Ukraine stability, acts strictly within existing agreements – UN envoy

http://rt.com/news/un-ukraine-russia-agreements-278/

Very informative press conference with Russia’s UN ambassador Vitaly Churkin. He explains much here, also interesting what he says about the "Russian invasion" of Crimea. I have a feeling the Russians will have from very interesting things to say saturday, from his remarks about that. He also has a bit of fun with a Brit over that question and then properly same American reporter's idiotic question. The video of the press conference is definitely worth watching.

вот так

Nationalist Heretic said...

Israeli military involvement in US/NATO-backed Ukrainian insurgency:

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http://www.timesofisrael.com/israeli-militia-commander-fights-to-protect-kiev/

http://www.huffingtonpost.com/abraham-h-foxman/in-ukraine-new-government_b_4875833.html

'Interestingly, the armed nationalist groups that fought on the Maidan against government troops and police have made important gestures toward the Jewish community this week.

Dmitro Yarosh, leader of Right Sector, met with Israel's ambassador to Ukraine, Reuven Din El, and told him that their movement rejects anti-Semitism and xenophobia and will not tolerate it. He said their goals were a democratic Ukraine, transparent government, ending corruption, and equal opportunity for all ethnic groups.

The day before, Ukrainian Jewish journalist Eleonora Groisman interviewed Sergei Mischenko, the leader of "Spilna Sprava," and told him that Ukraine's Jews were worried about the nationalists. Mischenko responded that Jews will not have any problems and shouldn't worry. He went on to say, "On the Maidan there were Jews with us who served in the Israeli Defense Forces. We got along excellently and fought shoulder to shoulder."'

Vasco da Gama said...

@Tor Quinn-Darke

"They will need to decide which way to face"

I think "they" just did:

Merkel's "I'm between the devil and the deep blue sea" speech:

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=OOm6Q9hNe4Y (short version)
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=sokTVunAByQ (longer version - german simultaneous translation, i wonder why will Channel 4 News impair it's english audience with the voiceover for the full length)

"I have been told many times during the last few days that there are very special expectations of my speech here today. Supposedly, or so I have heard, some expect my speech to pave the way for a fundamental reform of the European architecture which will satisfy all kinds of alleged or actual British wishes. I am afraid they are in for a disappointment.

I have also heard that others are expecting the exact opposite and are hoping that I will deliver the clear and simple message here in London that the rest of Europe is not prepared to pay almost any price to keep Britain in the European Union. I am afraid these hopes will be dashed, too.

If what I have been told is true, then it will be obvious to everyone that I find myself caught between the devil and the deep blue sea. That, ladies and gentlemen, is not a pleasant position to be in – at least not for a German Head of Government."
Full transcript > http://www.bundesregierung.de/Content/EN/Reden/2014/2014-02-28-brit-parlament-en.html

Anyway, while the first disappointment is quite intelligible, the proceeding one much less so. Was she attempting to say that "the rest of Europe is not prepared to pay any price to keep Britain in the European Union" but in a complicated way? She succeeded!

Was she remembering "It's a sin to tell a lie" by any chance?

Europe will be having elections this year, hopefully europeans will be engaged too and keenly proceed to their ballot boxes, not letting themselves abstain despite well placed delusion with its political class.

Anonymous said...

"...the Democratic People's Republic of Korea (DPRK) accused the United States over human rights.

A spokesman of the DPRK Foreign Ministry said the United States was the worst human rights abuser, "who killed innocent people through aggression and intervention, and systematically committed illegal wire-tapping and surveillance against citizens of other countries."

The United States should be brought to an international human rights tribunal, the spokesman was quoted by the official KCNA news agency as saying." in Xinhua news.


A few years ago, who would believe in North Korean`s oficial media?
This only show how low the US government has desdended to in the eyes of people around the World.

Anonymous said...

By the way, the instantly apprehendable and “spectacular” symbolic language of “Color Revolution” should also be immediately appropriated and turned against itself, employing the Situationist technique of détournement: Russian speakers all over the country should take to wearing red armbands (or perhaps alternately, yellow stars, pink triangles, or rainbows), emblazoned with the words "Russian Speaker," and commence speaking Russian rather obviously in public places. A few attacks, and possibly a death or two, filmed and placed on Youtube, would entirely discredit the new "government" before the world stage -- essentially making the "Nazi" trope unavoidable to even the most ardent supporters of the coup. German and US public opinion, in particular, would be unable to countenance this, and their governments would be forced to either withdraw overt support for the coup government, or further obviously intervene in the sovereign affairs of another state. The US would open itself up to internal destabilization, with, say, spontaneous movements of Spanish speakers wearing armbands in Los Angeles or New York City. And Russia would have clear grounds to invoke the dubious “Responsibility to Protect” doctrine in defense of Russian speakers.

Anonymous said...

just came over this:
http://voiceofrussia.com/2014_02_28/Anonymous-operations-expose-Ukrainian-Bandera-nazis-9458/
which clearly confirmes the actual & short/medium-long link both the nazis & tatars etc established. it's also another puzzle, which in connection with the reportedly returned Turkish aircraft, paints pretty interesting scheme...
i'm just asking myself: how many steps upfront have the eu/nato clowns had their plans thought over? what i mean is this - once you create a hyper-volatile situation anywhere in the world, you can never be sure that some kind of "surprise" won't spoil your nicely pre-planned chess game, right? at least unless you are firmly controlling the whole game including the rules, then you can deal with almost any surprises imho. but shall i really estimate that the elites are that strong in their control? or are they just a bunch of cowboys playing the evil "ordo ab chao" apocalyptic scenario?
well, it's a never-ending learning... :)
cheers to all and appreciate to be part of a discussion on mostly polite & sophisticated level...
marek

Anonymous said...

Anonymous said...

By the way, the instantly apprehendable and “spectacular” symbolic language of “Color Revolution” should also be immediately appropriated and turned against itself, employing the Situationist technique of détournem


ok, but in the 4G wars the role of the media is determinant and I dont see the russian media in a such propagandistic role as ALL the "western" media.

Reinfeldt said...

If the russians now are doin an anonymous coup in Crimea, why putting up russian flag ? teasing ?

Old auntie said...

Does anyone of you understand German? Here is an interview of a respected German politician (member of the CDU, the conservative party of Angela Merkel) with the Iranian Radio Broadcasting station and … I couldn’t believe my ears!!! From the first to the last minute it is a scathing critique of US meddling all over the world.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=O3fNWgefjz0
Was Angies censor absent answering a call of nature or what? I am flabbergasted. Ironically, he especially condemns meddling in the Ukraine. See who is talking. :-)

Anonymous said...

Found this comment on a Russian military forum, that summed it up nicely:

Fcuk it FP! I'm really tired of this crap!
As I've said times before in this thread (and in other threads) - Slavic nations are really fertile grounds to play 'Divide et impera' with.
We're the sorry fckuers, and it's 'people in the West, pulling the strings' that are laughing and petting themselves on the back for being able to play these games with us.
We definitely deserve whatever we get, and that goes for the Ukrainians as well.

Anonymous said...

These desperate acts by the peaceful Obama are the confirmation that the domestic front, specially the economics, is deteriorating or only a try to shore up the quislings here in Europe, which are losing credibility. Even now, the Icelanders are rejetting to join EU.

Gagarin Thespaceman said...

Check this out:

http://www.haaretz.com/news/world/1.577114

Haaretz trying to discredit Kremlin claims of anti-semitism in Ukraine's new rulers, by interviewing an ex-IDF soldier who (along with other Israeis) led a platoon on the Kiev Maidan along side the Svoboda neo-nazis. Also, it completely ignores Right Sector. That smells soooo fishy!! The not-so-covert work of Mossad in Ukraine's national suicide.

whazzo said...

"Isolating Russia is not easy and there are not many takers for a cold war line-up. Russia has diverse relationships globally. Putin has steely nerves. He will expose Obama’s bluff by exercising the leverage Russia wields over the Ukraine situation, which will be below the threshold of open military intervention. However, dangers linger. Ten million ethnic Russians live in Ukraine and it is going to be a long haul."

http://blogs.rediff.com/mkbhadrakumar/2014/03/01/obamas-cost-accounting-in-ukraine/

Tor Quinn-Darke said...

@Vasco da Gamma,

The UK is not an issue for the EU - it has already been solved having the UK in the European tent pissing out, in preference to having it outside pissing in. The issue is whether they will accept being totally "F**ked" (copyright, V. Nuland) over by the USA.

@ Anonymous @Tor Quinn-Darke - Who are you talking about when you say "Europeans"? The people, or their masters?

The Masters, obviously - they have created the present; they can create the future, or have it created for them. There are many, many examples of where now where US foreign policy instruments are impacting negatively on the Europeans' plans. By that I include politicians, trade, Wall St, and the internet. So many examples that it would be fairer to talk of a US/EU war rather then political manouevring.

Do you know for example the status of the request by the Germans to the US to have its gold back? Do you know of the complete indifference of the US of German protests about the NSA hacking Merkel's phone? The first para of this post of Saker's is yet another example of US indifference to EU politicians.

But there is far worse to come. Recall Greece? That was a straight contest, totally covert, between Wall St and German banking power. At present the Ukraine situation may result in the EU having to adopt the economic ball and chain of a separate west Ukraine (not to mention the ignominy of visibly supporting neo-nazis). And coing down the road is the Transatlantic Trade and Investment Partnership - if and when that is signed, Europe becomes to the USA as India was the Britsh in the 17th century.

Anonymous said...

@Saker

These so-called (rt) "self defense squads" in the Crimea, they were dressed and looked and acted so professional, I wondered if those were Russia's version of NATO's gladio forces... (by which I obviously do NOT equate them by any means - unless of course Russia's gladio also have perpetrated false flag terrorism and destabilization)

They surely aren't just a bunch of neighborhood vigilantes...

Honk

VINEYARDSAKER: said...

@Honk:They surely aren't just a bunch of neighborhood vigilantes...

You are absolutely correct. These are professional forces. Now, this is Crimea where the local 'civilian' population is probably something like what you could find in Fort Bragg, NC. This *might* be a 'local' effort, but either way, these guys are not your typical vigilantes. Even their weapons are new, include sniper rifles, machine guns and portable anti-tank weapons. No, you are spot on - this is some kind of covert elite force.

Cheers!

The Saker

Old Ez said...

"The statements that this document has already played its role are not serious." From the Anglo-Zionist ("Western"/Globalist) perspective, the document has fulfilled its purpose: the destruction of the legitimate Ukrainian government. Anyone who actually believes the document was meant to do anything else is naive.

Sokenekos said...

@Saker

sorry for the rant! It baffled me that the same gang of thugs is almost getting away with yet another rape using the same tactics & tools as before. Russia should have predicted this to the finest detail, & be ready to counter-attack, not react.

The fact that the fight has moved to Crimea, to Russia's territory - so to speak, is a sign of loss; battles should be fought on the enemy's territory.

Yet, apparently someone read my outburst of anger, & things are moving in the right direction.

The key thing now is to move on quickly w/out a stop in order to put enemy into defencive position & to preserve the order while it still exists in areas where there is support for Russia. Any hesitation produces more chaos which will be more difficult to untangle later on. Give the enemy no chance to maneuver, keep him busy responding to your initiative.

Looks like I have a reason to change my mood this morning:). What a galore of good news on the Voice of Russia. E.g.:

Putin asks Federation Council for permit to send armed forces in Ukraine

Odessa residents gather in Kulikovo Field under Russian and Soviet flags

Russian flag raised outside Donetsk regional administration

Russian flag raised at regional administration building in Kharkov

Russian passports could be given not only to Berkut - Russian Consulate in Ukraine
. . .

Vasco da Gama said...

@Old auntie

I don't get much deutsch to my most sincere regret, yet i absolutely understand "Nie wieder krieg", and as much as i could gather from Willy Wimmer interview i have to share your surprise to the extent of his statements.

@Tor Quinn-Darke

... to an extent Germany was already eff'ed over by the US with the 21st Feb. move. It appears to me they have been doublecrossed somehow, the weight layed by a Foreign Minister whose signature has been spit upon by the puppets in Kiev.

Without intending to excuse previous Germany's questionable moves (my view is that they unwarrantly interfered in Ukraine), I do trust the russian side to realize their position.